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minimightymonkey- 01-31-2005
As sad as the end result of the recent Junior Camrose there must have been some well played and defended hand(s). So if anyone has anything that they would like to share or that they think would make a good puzzle please put it down here. I know Myles is writing something for something (surely not PBOTW?) but if anyone has anything interesting please put it down

Benji- 02-01-2005
I made an end play against the Republic of Ireland playing on vu graph. But considering it was the easiest end play ever and I should have called 3nt it wasn't that impressive... cool.gif

gordy had Kxxx
xxx
AQx
K10x

and i had AJ10x
Axx
Kxx
A9x

or something

Myles- 02-01-2005
Good stuff ji, I got a superb defence me and g found but aint got the time just now. But I got enough time to plug Keri.

The darling lady of keri would find 3n on this because it's 2x 4-3-3-3 hands. And 3n is colder than a dip in the Welsh ocean biggrin.gif

ajags- 02-01-2005
We had a few interesting hands. Sadly I forgot to pack any hand records so I will take a while to remember them all and get them down on paper, but there were some interesting ones.

Andy

Benji- 02-02-2005
i should have found 3nt as well, except i wanted to show off in front of the vu graph biggrin.gif

the bidding should go

1nt - 3c - 3d - 3h - 3s - 3nt all pass (although any doubles would definetly be appreciated)

another good one was

6c bid and made with

A6432
96
A
K9762

-
A105
J6543
AQJ53

for a cheeky vulnerable slam swing in, ah thank you very much

minimightymonkey- 02-02-2005
Sorry to ask ben but can we please have the bidding? Looks quite hard to reach the excellent 6c
My guess is 1d-1s
2c-2h
3c-4c
4h-4nt
5s/(5nt?)-6c
though I could be a long long way off

Benji- 02-03-2005
i think gordon opened the bidding so i think it went

1s - 2d - 3c - 4h - 4s - 4nt - 5d - 6c

then gordy did his damn thing made the 12 tricks (although he did trump his 13th winner)


wink.gif

Reformed Englishman- 02-03-2005
I think a far cheeckyer(if this is a word) a slam woudl be this nice one below:

me:

AQ
xx
Axx
AKJxxx

Andy:

KJxxxx
Qx
Kxx
xx

6S made 13, unfortunately not on vugraph.


Phil- 02-03-2005
What on earth were you in that for? What was the auction and why the awful defence?

minimightymonkey- 02-04-2005
I must also ask about Ben and Gorons bidding.
1:Was 2d intended as lead deflective or is it standard to bid the higher of the two 5 card suits and im an idiot?
2: Would anyone else reverse into 3c on Gordons hand?
3:Isnt 4h a splinter with club support?
Actually i think 4h is a very good bid :-) As Ben knew they were heading for at least and probably only a small slam in clubs i cant see much wrong with telling the opponents as many lies as possible in the mean time.

Benji- 02-04-2005
yeah,

you should bid the higher of two 5 card suits because if partner wants to sign off he doesn't have to go a level higher

3c might look a little aggresive (and thats coming from me) but it is good because he has a singleton ace of my suit and if we can find a trump fit then we have an excellent trick making machine. 3nt is not a good spot! this is the bid that let us get to slam

i liked 4h as well wink.gif but we play it as agreeing suit and more of a normal cue

minimightymonkey- 02-04-2005
The first comment confuses me as how exactly does it stop you going to a higher level? It does if you open the higher of two five card suits but i cant see the value in bidding the higher one in this situation really. If partner has diamonds he will show them with a 2d bid but if he has clubs replying two diamonds will cause them to be lost whilst a simple 2c responce woul allow him to show his shape with a raise to 3. Remember you are going to force to game with your hand.
It seems as though a 9 card club fit may be missed through bidding the higher one.

Benji- 02-05-2005
firstly i don't think i want to be in game with my hand if we don't have a reasonable fit - we don't play a 2 level bid over an opening as forcing to game. if partner has 6 spades say 11 points, and 3, 2, 2 a part score is far superior. so it would go 1s - 2c - 2s - 3d is a reverse by responder game force, and my hand looses its strength playing in no trump (which looks like the obvious place). whereas 1s - 2d - 2s - 3c is surely minimum with limited tolerance for spades and 2 5 (at least) card suits and gives partner the option of a part score. if he wants a part score then he can pass or convert to 3d

by similar reasoning you will miss a 9 card diamond fit by calling clubs first

when gordy reverses in clubs i can see a lot of ruffing potential

thats the way i thought about it - maybe i'm wrong

minimightymonkey- 02-06-2005
You wont miss the 9 card diamond fit by calling clubs first as with a 54 pattern Gordy will call 2d over 2c showing you the fit anyway.
I can see your point about on this hand not wanting to go to game (only 8 tricks on these hands) but i kinda meant to ask the question in more general terms with a game forcing hand and 55 in the minors should the higher one be bid first?

ajags- 02-07-2005
Our auction to 6 hearts was
Andy - Opp - Alex - Opp

2h - p - 2nt - p
3h - p - 6h - all p

Scary stuff eh, i nearly wet myself when i saw dummy and found it hard not to laugh when i rolled home with all the tricks!

Andy

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